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Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
Julien Huang
Date:
2012-06-30 @ 08:17
Hi guys,

Just subscribed myself. Has everyone subscribed to the list? Eric, Hughes
and Daniel?

So, before getting our hands dirty on organizing any event, I suggest that
we define a goal/mission as a simple statement for our group. That will
allows us to :
- as the core/first people of this group, have a full
understanding/agreement on the purpose of the group,
- set a vision/direction,
- set our expectations,
- to agree on what we can/should/must do and conversely what we
can't/shouldn't/mustn't do

So any idea for a "mission statement"?

-- 
Julien Huang

Re: [devops.france] Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
hugues obolonsky
Date:
2012-06-30 @ 14:49
Hi,

I agree with the first part of the subject and we certainly need explicit 
goals and vision for a next step.

But, make a roadmap will be a waste of time IMHO because this generally 
don't survive to the first contact with reality !
We maybe can make list  of 4 or 5 actions for an immediate achievement.

One of this action could make a focus on the devops community feedback for
this event. 
Will they attend ? What they expect from this event, etc etc
> Twitter is certainly the better place to spread this survey about a 
devops day in Paris. 

This could tell us if we hit a hot subject and we could deduce a sizing 
idea of this event.

--
Hugues


Le 30 juin 2012 à 10:17, Julien Huang a écrit :

> Hi guys,
> 
> Just subscribed myself. Has everyone subscribed to the list? Eric, 
Hughes and Daniel?
> 
> So, before getting our hands dirty on organizing any event, I suggest 
that we define a goal/mission as a simple statement for our group. That 
will allows us to :
> - as the core/first people of this group, have a full 
understanding/agreement on the purpose of the group,
> - set a vision/direction,
> - set our expectations,
> - to agree on what we can/should/must do and conversely what we 
can't/shouldn't/mustn't do
> 
> So any idea for a "mission statement"?
> 
> -- 
> Julien Huang
> 

Re: [devops.france] Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
Daniel Maher
Date:
2012-07-02 @ 12:49
On 12-06-30 4:49 PM, hugues obolonsky wrote:
> Hi,

Hi !

> I agree with the first part of the subject and we certainly need
> explicit goals and vision for a next step.

I'd like us to try to strike a good balance between big dreams and harsh 
realities.  We've all probably got grand visions (well, I do at least, 
heh), and it's great to think big, so let the ideas fly and we'll see 
which ones we can tether to the ground.

> We maybe can make list  of 4 or 5 actions for an immediate achievement.

Agreed.  One of those first steps (perhaps _the_ first step) is just 
getting people onto this mailing list.  I've reached out to a few other 
people via email and Twitter today - hopefully we can start to gather 
some critical mass.

Another action item would be to reach out to Devopsdays and see if 
there's a potential relationship to be had there.  According to their 
website[1] they're going to have an event in Italy in October - details 
are light, but if it's real, some of us might want to think about going 
if possible.  Heck, might even be an opportunity to do a presentation, 
but I digress.

> One of this action could make a focus on the devops community feedback
> for this event.
> Will they attend ? What they expect from this event, etc etc

Great observations.  Why don't we put together a short list of things 
we'd like to know, and start putting the questions out there via the 
various mediums.  Straightforward stuff like :
* Would you attend a Devops conference in France ?
* What sorts of topics would be interesting to you ?
* Do you prefer presentations, labs, lightning talks, or round-tables ?

Eventually we'll also need to start reaching out to some businesses here 
in France in order to get a temperature reading from them as well.

[1] http://devopsdays.org/events/2012-italy/

-- 
dan.
mozilla webops; european outpost.

Re: [devops.france] Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
Liam Boogar
Date:
2012-07-02 @ 12:58
Hey Dan,

Sounds like a great idea, and I hope that I and Rude Baguette can help 
out as much as possible. A few suggestions following your "first steps" 
below:

1. Create a MailChimp mailing list with a checkbox sign-up form allowing 
people to express their preferences - this is something I can easily do 
in about 5 minutes. Send that sign-up form to as many people as you 
can/want, and then you'll not only get your responsess, but start 
building a database that you can eventually use to invite people to the 
event.

2. you should definitely reach out to the Italy event!

3. If you need help reaching out to sponsors/organizing the logistics of 
the event, I can definitely help out there. Companies like Microsofot 
will easily jump in and sponsor the event, covering Internet, Location, 
and Catering costs (and maybe even a little more money to speak at the 
event about what I imagine must exist of a "DevOps" solution of theirs). 
That can knock out about 95% of the conference organizing, leaving just 
the guest list, smaller sponsors, and speakers to find.

Looking forward to helping out!

-Liam Boogar

On 02/07/2012 14:49, Daniel Maher wrote:
> On 12-06-30 4:49 PM, hugues obolonsky wrote:
>> Hi,
> Hi !
>
>> I agree with the first part of the subject and we certainly need
>> explicit goals and vision for a next step.
> I'd like us to try to strike a good balance between big dreams and harsh
> realities.  We've all probably got grand visions (well, I do at least,
> heh), and it's great to think big, so let the ideas fly and we'll see
> which ones we can tether to the ground.
>
>> We maybe can make list  of 4 or 5 actions for an immediate achievement.
> Agreed.  One of those first steps (perhaps _the_ first step) is just
> getting people onto this mailing list.  I've reached out to a few other
> people via email and Twitter today - hopefully we can start to gather
> some critical mass.
>
> Another action item would be to reach out to Devopsdays and see if
> there's a potential relationship to be had there.  According to their
> website[1] they're going to have an event in Italy in October - details
> are light, but if it's real, some of us might want to think about going
> if possible.  Heck, might even be an opportunity to do a presentation,
> but I digress.
>
>> One of this action could make a focus on the devops community feedback
>> for this event.
>> Will they attend ? What they expect from this event, etc etc
> Great observations.  Why don't we put together a short list of things
> we'd like to know, and start putting the questions out there via the
> various mediums.  Straightforward stuff like :
> * Would you attend a Devops conference in France ?
> * What sorts of topics would be interesting to you ?
> * Do you prefer presentations, labs, lightning talks, or round-tables ?
>
> Eventually we'll also need to start reaching out to some businesses here
> in France in order to get a temperature reading from them as well.
>
> [1] http://devopsdays.org/events/2012-italy/
>

Re: [devops.france] Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
Daniel Maher
Date:
2012-07-09 @ 09:08
On 12-07-02 2:58 PM, Liam Boogar wrote:

> 2. you should definitely reach out to the Italy event!

I've managed to make contact with Patrick Debois directly, though he has 
passed me off to the local organisers - from whom the only communication 
I have received so far is an automated vacation-away message.  I'll keep 
trying, though. :)


-- 
dan.
mozilla webops; european outpost.

Re: [devops.france] Defining our goal(s) & roadmap

From:
Sylvain Zimmer
Date:
2012-07-02 @ 13:05
Hey Dan,

I'm also happy to help or provide feedback when needed as we have a small
experience in organizing such events ;-)

I also know well the AWS team in France which would maybe be interested in
sponsoring.

Cheers,

--
Sylvain Zimmer
CTO, www.joshfire.com

blog: sylvinus.org
gsm: +33 6 64 67 61 71


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Liam Boogar <liam.boogar@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Dan,
>
> Sounds like a great idea, and I hope that I and Rude Baguette can help
> out as much as possible. A few suggestions following your "first steps"
> below:
>
> 1. Create a MailChimp mailing list with a checkbox sign-up form allowing
> people to express their preferences - this is something I can easily do
> in about 5 minutes. Send that sign-up form to as many people as you
> can/want, and then you'll not only get your responsess, but start
> building a database that you can eventually use to invite people to the
> event.
>
> 2. you should definitely reach out to the Italy event!
>
> 3. If you need help reaching out to sponsors/organizing the logistics of
> the event, I can definitely help out there. Companies like Microsofot
> will easily jump in and sponsor the event, covering Internet, Location,
> and Catering costs (and maybe even a little more money to speak at the
> event about what I imagine must exist of a "DevOps" solution of theirs).
> That can knock out about 95% of the conference organizing, leaving just
> the guest list, smaller sponsors, and speakers to find.
>
> Looking forward to helping out!
>
> -Liam Boogar
>
> On 02/07/2012 14:49, Daniel Maher wrote:
> > On 12-06-30 4:49 PM, hugues obolonsky wrote:
> >> Hi,
> > Hi !
> >
> >> I agree with the first part of the subject and we certainly need
> >> explicit goals and vision for a next step.
> > I'd like us to try to strike a good balance between big dreams and harsh
> > realities.  We've all probably got grand visions (well, I do at least,
> > heh), and it's great to think big, so let the ideas fly and we'll see
> > which ones we can tether to the ground.
> >
> >> We maybe can make list  of 4 or 5 actions for an immediate achievement.
> > Agreed.  One of those first steps (perhaps _the_ first step) is just
> > getting people onto this mailing list.  I've reached out to a few other
> > people via email and Twitter today - hopefully we can start to gather
> > some critical mass.
> >
> > Another action item would be to reach out to Devopsdays and see if
> > there's a potential relationship to be had there.  According to their
> > website[1] they're going to have an event in Italy in October - details
> > are light, but if it's real, some of us might want to think about going
> > if possible.  Heck, might even be an opportunity to do a presentation,
> > but I digress.
> >
> >> One of this action could make a focus on the devops community feedback
> >> for this event.
> >> Will they attend ? What they expect from this event, etc etc
> > Great observations.  Why don't we put together a short list of things
> > we'd like to know, and start putting the questions out there via the
> > various mediums.  Straightforward stuff like :
> > * Would you attend a Devops conference in France ?
> > * What sorts of topics would be interesting to you ?
> > * Do you prefer presentations, labs, lightning talks, or round-tables ?
> >
> > Eventually we'll also need to start reaching out to some businesses here
> > in France in order to get a temperature reading from them as well.
> >
> > [1] http://devopsdays.org/events/2012-italy/
> >
>
>
>